Thanks again! I absolutely love the floors. It won't tell you what caused the scratching (glass particles in sand is the usual culprit. LOVE, Blizzard fierce or butter soft, white can highlight shapes, unify a room and perform miracles on the cheap, Its typically the primary color in gardens. It was another rude comment from someone who was engaging in further confrontation.Ive already asked Houzz to delete the post. Sure, white kitchens are beautiful when theyre sparkling clean. White streaks in floor. When was the last coat applied? The webpages say that Classic "highlights the natural color of the wood" while Natural is "designed to retain the appearance of unfinished wood" but having seen the raw, sanded wood which was remarkably gray, I don't know how the latter is possible. It was one coat of seal. We did one coat of Bona natural seal and two coats of Bona HD extra matte on white oak. He told me that the floor would look the same, which was obviously a lie. Really not read much about IntenSeal? I'm actually impressed he is putting up with me and my ideas - lol. Not the best lighting. Hi everyone! white/grey countertops with light wood floor & stainless appliances. We are deciding between Classic and Intense seal on our white oak floors as well! Thank you for your input. A quick scan of my question and then a quick scan of your answer simply lead G & S to believe all 3 coats were put down same day.which happens more than you really want to know. It won't be cheap but it will be fast. We got our hardwood lumber from a lumber mill in Berryville, VA. Heres a pic kitchen isnt finished yet but should give you an idea, Blizzard fierce or butter soft, white can highlight shapes, unify a room and perform miracles on the cheap, Avoid going too traditional and too clean by introducing an off-white palette that brings a touch of warmth and elegance, From silvery ash to honey blonde or chalk white, light-toned floors hold the key to the pared-back simplicity of Scandinavian style, Rustic touches from nature embellish the white-and-wood palette in this remodeled house in Denmark, White too bright in your kitchen? Installing an 8" plank with full spread glue is EXPENSIVE (the labour alone is intense). The real way this is tested is actually even meaner to the floor - normally you take a box cutter, cross-hatch the floor (IE cut it in a grid pattern), and then put the tape on it and rip it up. @CEM TOSA It took me forever to decide on countertops. I read ClassicSeal is a cheaper sealer in the Bona lineup? Use Bona Naturaseal for the look you want. The matte helps scratches blend. Trying to make this choice right now(within the next two hours- yikes! This is what G & S was responding to.a quick scan of your answer (I'm guilty of it myself some times) can give the impression that everything was done same day (which it wasn'tbecause I asked about the LAST coatnot the timeline to reach last coat). We did samples on floor and two coats looks significantly different. I am often surprised at how it feels to open/close off certain areas. ! Which one did you end up going with? Stand up to the effects of UV on the oak over time, 3. Prevent the tannin pull so common with white oak. If he can't get it donethen hire someone NEW and send the bill to the original contractor. I hope I get into the house before any subcontractors mess them up again! Its a shame since it could be helpful for others. I have lived in my new house for 15 months and I love the look of my floors - they are easy to decorate with and give the home a warm but "cool" look at the same time. I knew this was IT. @Moran Blueshtein, We are having about 3500 sq feet of the wood installed and finished plus stairs. Absolutely love the matte finish. Or is Minwax and Duraseal the same thing? So it looks like I must know what product I am likely to use before I can even find a pro.So I am experimenting on my own, trying to narrow down the options. I hope some of this information is helpful. MEANWHILE earlier in the process I had contacted the main Corian wholesaler for the East Coast, and had gotten the name of a fabricator in my area. For my white oak floors - thinking of using Bona Natural Sealer or Classic or Intense. Not sure if this is helpful but attached are picks of recently completed white oak with Bona natural seal followed by Bona traffic HD extra matte finish. A unique way of customizing your floor from a light whitewash to successive coats, providing a truly Scandinavian look. Their attention to detail. So in my mind better to research and ask questions than not. Someone else on here suggested Durasupreme. Why did you decide to go with Corian? This was such a great informative thread. can you share any pix? That means you relate clean with shiny. Carlyweiss, your post and pictures are so helpful for those of us in the choosing process. I realize your flooring was "select" not #2 and that makes a difference. And the professional you spoke to is correct: the 'hand sanding' is NO WHERE NEAR the same finish/product as the machine with 'final-grit' sanding. I'd say I send back at least 20 bundles a year that are not true Quartzites even though they are passed off to me as such. It still a major upgrade from Bona MEGa. 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Of course, none of this is more than 3 foot square sampleand not my kitchen floor, but we are hopeful that we have an answer. And dont go forward unless they are willing to give you samples with ALL the finished coats. I think we found a good match. So much to consider and my cabinet maker doesn't seem to be able to recreate what I am looking for. It has not been sanded or sealed yet so I hope we still like it when its finished. I will ask him about Poloplaz Pearl and Pallman products as well.Would you suggest a satin or matte finish? What I like to suggest regarding 'cure times' is to give them MORE timenot less. The correct answer should be "nothing at all". How are things holding up a ~year later? We have one big space kitchen, then dining area with doors to exterior, then the family room. Three teenagers, a dog. It is 3/4 x 5 solid white oak hardwood. The wood Is white oak from Norway (from Cochrans in Virginia). Just my 2 cents worth but typically, OAK flooring will shrink/expand ACROSS the grain it's usually pretty stable end to end, as with most hardwood species. If that does something, it's busted, you don't need to test further. It was light and made the room appear larger. Bona DriFast Stains are compatible with all Bona finishing systems, including waterborne. They have little to no chemical resistance. Yours looks so light and bright. Would love to hear from anyone who has sampled these Sealers and what they thought. Bona Traffic HD is 10 times EASIER to find (but a snick harder to work with). I had a question as to why you decided only to do one coat of Nordic as opposed to the recommended two? You only need an inch. It didnt seem to show the variations in the wood, light to dark, etc, grain, etc. Also, the guy said they usually apply the sealer one day, then one or two finish coats the next day (running into the 3rd day depending on how it dries). Combining Bona NaturalSeal with a matte-sheen finish such as Bona Traffic Naturale preserves that look and gives your floor the It honestly looks just like our white oak (unstained, natural) - I wish I could leave it without sealer etc. The finish guy said he put on 1.5 gal on the first coat of TrafficHD. if anyone else has found a reasonable solution, could you pls share what you did and a few pix? We are building next year and making decisions now. Dark Hardwood Floors vs. Light Hardwood Floors? Here Bona Natural is on the left in front of fireplace and Nordic is on the right surrounded by sanded white oak. Below Jack and Jill bath with Corian countertop AND Corian integrated sinks. Nora are you installing tower or Windsor? Thanks for leaving this up. In this video, Joe demonstrates how to use Bona NordicSeal to achieve a whitewashed look in a hardwood floor. Loba in any of its water based formats (low gloss keeps it from looking "finished") options will do exactly what you want. The NordicSeal is a great product for red oak it safely bleaches the wood and removes the harsh red tones. A gallon of Varathane = $80 (Home Depot). (BTW - We ran into the issue with getting character grade mixed into our select a bit too, very frustrating!). @Ashley I just want to lay down on my floors and HUG them!! I looked at the bona product and it states it contains a small amount of white pigment? I adore the light color, but every little water spot shows, or a splash of spilled coffee. I used a custom color mix of about 2/3 mist and 1/3 white stain. It is my understanding that these Bona products are tricky to apply. I should add that I planned to use Bona Traffic HD finish as well since I read how durable it is and how it goes on clear without yellowing the wood. (The Classic has less of a haze.) are you happy with it 2+ years later (and is it holding up well with food/oil stains etc) please share any details, like if you had 2 or 3 coats. My suggestion is to figure out what type of 'cleaning' person you are. Intense seal will cast yellowing. These were my red oak in a medium stain and you can definitely see the red undertone: My SIL did a darker stain on her floors and she says the cleaning is brutal. The main thing to worry about when it comes to Quartzite is if it is actually a true Quartzite. Dear Doane, A well established hardwood flooring company (a "ma and pa" type store) will have the big machines to get the product off of your floor. Any suggestions on deciding one over the other? Also is he recommending abrading between the coats? Unless you're certain the gaps developed AFTER installation, I'd suggest the possibility they may have been present all along. Many customers like a dark stain because it looks modern and the floor is easy to decorate. 2 coats at the right coverage is more than enough for low traffic areas. Double cost any standard stained finish. Thank you. I fear, though, that the amber color has penetrated the wood since a sealer was not used and I am stuck with a yellow floor. Houzz nutzt Cookies und hnliche Technologien, um Ihre Benutzererfahrung zu personalisieren, Ihnen relevante Inhalte bereitzustellen und die Produkte und Dienstleistungen zu verbessern. I"m just assuming you don't want to cut up your floor. I am trying to figure out the same for my rift oak cabinets. I asked for, but he never did, an all country white one. I love your base molding, where do you buy that from? Otherwise time will turn the white oak yellow regardless of how it looks when freshly finished. D Debra Travis Red Oak Hardwood Floors Installing Hardwood Floors Natural Wood Flooring Decoration We refinishing the floor and apply natural seal from bona and top coat bona mega one satin D I wish I had the link, but there are others that used a combination of stains with weathered oak as the base and it is beautiful as well. Anyway, good luck. will slightly darken the floors and sort of intensify the variation (the sample boards almost looked wet to me). WebMy new white oak floors have 1 coat of Bona Natural Seal and 2 coats of Bona Traffic HD satin. Some comments that NaturalSeal has a slight white cloudiness? Emily Henderson has a white metal railing in her split level home that is pretty gorgeous and widely photographed. Thank you for your input. We installed almost 3000 sq ft throughout our home and it is the most important feature of our renovation. Sigh. Let him fix it ONCE. Will there be less haze if we use a satin finish? They will not withstand the normal kitchen detergent cleanings that need to occurr to remove grease or pancake batter. Looking at pictures of finished jobs of all three, its difficult to tell the difference. This photo Nordic is on the top and Natural is on the bottom. @mtpo sorry to bring this thread back. Founded in 1919, Bona offers products for most premium floor surfaces including WebBona sealer to avoid uneven tannin pull due to using a water based poly, (especially on white oak), no stain, then Bona Traffic HD. Our hardwood installer and contractor use DuraSeal products often and Bona Mega. I personally love Quartzite. The contractor has also suggested one coat of Loba 2K Supra on top. @Ashley Your floors look beautiful. The cost of the floors and Bona sealer plus 3 protective coats was almost twice the price that my parents paid for the house I grew up in so be prepared to gasp and clutch your wallet. if so, the bank may be able to give you your money back if you dispute the charge for red oak and the install. First - The second pic you gave looks really weird. 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The cabinets and a new layout transform a once-dark New Jersey kitchen into a light and bright space, Its typically the primary color in gardens. They are dry and need one more day to cure. If, youre looking for a small amount. Also, Durasupreme got less than good reviews online. Oh cripe I had a whole response written out and it went poof. Im trying to stay with the natural look. But was the Bona Traffic absolutely clear? I used no filter on the photos, on an overcast morning from different angles. I've read mixed reviews of the Loba one last thing, Is your parquet the kind with slats/"fingers"? I got attacked on this thread or another Houzz thread by a contractor for mentioning Rubio for cabinets but I did a ton of research and looked at pictures and it is what we went with. Site finish your floors with Rubio monocoat and get exactly what you want. 1 coat of nordic seal will subtly lighten the color of white oak, while 2 coats of nordic seal will make it significantly lighter. Or Bona Traffic + their stain line. Thank you so much! We just installed 5 white oak throughout our home. It is a work of art. But, my husband and I are closer in agreement. He said mitering the edges is a nightmare (if you dont mitre, there is a white edge because the color doesnt go all the way through - at least the marble design I chose). @Hughey do you know what process for bleaching? If neither does anything to your floor, the floor coating is at least in reasonable shape. @tkgriff Thanks for sharing the photos. wipe down a 1ft x 1ft section with a lightly water damp cloth to see what I mean). I prefer to see three coats of finishbut if you MUST save money while still using Traffic HD then you can go down to two coats. DH wants to just go with light maple cabinets and I am tempted. William Smith, D.D., was The 'raw' look is a special look. Skip the 'money saving'. And cure times are the BEST case scenario (temps and humidity are ASSUMED to be PERFECT = they NEVER are in a home setting = please leave an extra day). I did a lot of research before deciding on what product to use and how many top coats to use. It has been a nightmare trying to find this look in my area. I would bet it would come in at the same price as a "buff and coat" (national average = $3/sf). Thank you for suggesting Bona Mega One. Fortunately, the installer is sending them back to the lumberyard to be replaced. I worry that two coats might look too light, but with one coat, I still see some yellow coming through (my sample has the Traffic HD matte though, not satin). I could not get dog drool, LOLwe also scratched it and our current floors (factory oil urethane) with tips of a scissor to compare. They are still drying and look darker in the photos than they do in person FYI. WebSome 5 white oak with Bona Natural Seal and Hd traffic extra matte. You have a special floor. Many, many, many more professional grade finishes. You want someone fully trained in the art of the 2-component (2K) water based system. Each to their own. It looks like you have SOLID 5" (that ranks as wide plank = glue assist) White Oak. They can use a big machine with a screening pad to get up most of that gunk. (Side shower walls are white). I'd love to know what finishes you ended up selecting as well. I"m just assuming you don't want to cut up your floor. I will have to follow up. @mtpo your floors are SO beautiful, do you know where they were ordered from and cost per sq ft? Your house lay out seems very much like ours! @Bongo. . It may come in other thicknesses too. It looks like the grain is *very* deep on the board to the left. Please help on base, crown, window, door molding size decision. I know one of the Milesi products in the natural effects side does contain a UV filter. Then go with water based and be done with it. Give a price you can make a living off of and let someone else win the low ball estimates. No scrape, no scratch, no nothing. If you wanted a specific COLOUR range (but didn't say anything about the look of raw wood) then the finisher brought what s/he sees people RIGHT NOW wanting (because it is trendy). It doesn't make sense. Im very happy with them and they are exactly the look I wanted. Michael, do you have pics of the intense seal? ?-- and liked playing around with it. Thank you. If so what brand and color was used? Choosing finish on white oak floor. I have my fingers crossed that I wont see white stripes when all the protective paper is pulled up. The company that supplied the raw wood and the installer both recommend Bona products. It is the single most abused/used FINISH ('finish' means 'pretty) in your home. @mtpo Your floors are beautiful. I guess it could help but honestly unless someone has your exact home with your ecxat light it is still just a guess . 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Of course the MORE coats you put on today.the FEWER coats you have to ADD in 15 years time (called a buff and coat and costs $3/sf on average). Thanks so much in advance!! I havent figured out if Im going to use any window coverings yet. I answered them in order. Ill try to get a better photo next time I go to the house (were still not in). I recall having 3 layers - but my old post notes 4. It would have been better to ASK if they put on all 3 coats in one day. If youre really interested, Ill call the installer Brazilian Floors and see if he still has the info. Just stick with Bona Traffic HD in a satin and you will be fine. These people end up crying themselves to sleep because they HATE their floors (and the massive price tag they just paid for). Make sure you use a PROFESSIONAL who is TRAINED in water based applications. Disregard the walls (we are installing a new kitchen). I read on the Bona website (and others) that TrafficHD coverage was 350-400sf/gal. 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